For a long time, I always wondered what those letters on the water fountain knob meant. The letters don’t really look like they all come from our English alphabet, like there’s some Greek thrown in it or something, especially with that last letter looking like a D, and odd O, or a triangle. I think one person even told me it stood for Every Body Can Drink. So what’s the answer? It’s the company’s name, EBCO, which later changed their name to OASIS in 1997. But I can’t find what EBCO actually stood for. The closest I could come to was European Bureau for Conscientious Objection, but don’t think that applies to a water fountain.
Daniel is a common name, but Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are not.
I’m expecting the health care debate to get pretty ugly as congress breaks, and I’m already seeing a lot of disinformation out there which is causing some ugly protests, at least here in Texas. I think before letting our emotions get the best of us or even making a decision about where we stand, we first need to understand what is exactly is at hand. I found this Time magazine article that is brief, encompassing, and informative. Just click on ‘Understanding Health-Care Reform’ and go through the ten slides – it won’t take you long if you are interested in the subject matter.
There’s so much misinformation out there regarding health care proposals, that the White House has even set up a blog about it.
It’s interesting how politics are changing before our eyes. In the past, political leaders use to ignore or play down all sorts of rumors or whatever you want to call them. But now because of how fast things spread online, you are starting to see political leaders address this issues much sooner to put out any fires. For instance, the whole birther movement has gotten out of hand.
But you know, it doesn’t matter what anyone says, people are going to believe, who and what they want to believe, no matter how overwhelming the evidence. For instance, it’s obviously quite clear that Elivs and JFK are still alive and are roommates in Canada. Vancouver I think.
My buddy Shawn that blogs to the east of me made this comment that has me thinking, and I’m thinking there’s a lot of truth behind it –The wrong people are controlling the dialogue.
But I took out the exclamation points. 😉
Please know that I’m not trying to convince you to like the health care plan. I just want you to have the right information, nothing distorted or taken out of context, so that you can be able to make a sound and rational decision on your own.
It’s my belief that all this misinformation about people losing their healthcare or Obama not being a natural born citizen, all created by the people who shouldn’t be controlling the dialogue, are causing unnecessary fear that is directly related to the number of death threats at the president.
When President Reagan got his first hearing aid in 1983, the sale of hearing aids in the U.S. went up by 40%.
Those birthers scare me. Like, really, really scare me. And they had a two year election to address this issue. But fear drives things.
Bill Clinton sure is something else. Take that however you would like.
I wonder how ex-presidents refer to each other. I know they use proper titles when in public, but behind closed doors, I wonder if they are on a first name basis.
I wonder what the formality is for a sitting president talking to an ex-president. I bet the ex-presidents prefer to be called by their first name by the sitting president, when out of public view.
I bet the ex-presidents call the sitting president, Mr President. And I bet a few sitting presidents have told an ex-president to call them by their first name, but the ex-presidents, out of respect, like to set a precedent by calling the sitting president, Mr President, even if the sitting president said it was OK to use the first name.
That was a long confusing sentence, I think. And yes, I forced the word “precedent” in there just to jazz it up.
While reading 25 Things We Miss In Football, I had no idea that up to 1977 the Super Bowl champions use to play a college all-star team. I wish there was old footage of that, or that it still happened today.
For some reason I’m thinking about that Diff’rent Strokes episode where Kimberly used rain water to clean her hair, but the rain water ended up being acid rain, and she got green hair.
Wow. You want people to go to Time Magazine and The White House blog to get "real" information about the health care bill. You are delusional, The "birthers" are nuts, but the people opposed to this healthcare bill do not fall into the same catagory-no matter how hard the White House works to paint them as being of the same ilk.
It's not an "Astro Turf Movement" (how arrogant!), but it's easier to margianlize those who disagree than to have an honest debate with them.
I didn't mean to imply that birthers and those opposed to the health care bill are in the same category. If it comes across that way, then I apologize and should have worded it better.
At least we both agree that birthers are nuts.
If you feel that Time magazine and the White House blog are not good places to get information about the health care bill, can you tell me what are some good sources I could check out rather than call me delusional?
And in all honesty, I had to Google "Astro Turf Movement."
Originally founded in 1910 as "D.A. Ebinger Sanitary Manufacturing Company", later renamed to EBCO in 1935… I imagine it is the combination of Ebinger and Company that yields EBCO
Well, Time and the WH have an agenda. Fox has an agenda. Since there isn't a bill for us to read, it's impossible to have a good debate. What I find astonishing is that the current status quo for government health care is never brought up. This point intrigues me the most:
From the Economist: (I'm quoting what was actually a graph, so not a word-for-word quote here): The US government, including state Medicaid, spends more per capita on health care than France, Germany, the UK, Switzerland, Canada. Those countries manage to cover almost everyone. So apparently, the US government COULD cover almost everyone WITHOUT this bill. If Obama is so sure that we could save money by making the system more efficient, can't we start there? Yes, the system we have now isn't great. But we don't have the money right now, so fix what we can and work towards fiscal responsibility. I really don't understand why a government (regardless of party) who cannot manage SS responsibly should be allowed to create another mess before fixing the old one.
If you've ever lived in a country with socialize medicine you might think a little more about this health care plan. It creates an even greater divide between the haves and the have nots. Why do you think all those Canadians who can afford it come down here for medical treatment. I agree we need to see the actual bill before any conclusions can be drawn. Lord only knows what kind of riders will be placed on this bill!
Hi folks. Here's a public letter from 12 members of Congress–both Democrats and Republicans–about the current health care reform bill. I would recommend turning off your televisions (where the "wrong people are controlling the dialog") and read what your actual senators are saying.
“Over the next month there is going to be an avalanche of misinformation and scare tactics from those seeking to perpetuate the status quo. But we know the cost of doing nothing is too high. Health care costs will double over the next decade, millions more will become uninsured, and state and local governments will go bankrupt.”
It’s nice to know that they’re not resorting to “scare tactics”…. All that was missing was rising sea levels and dead polar bears….
I'm baffled by the healthcare debate. What should a government do? Give the people the resources to have them taken care of , protect the people and fix the roads. Is there anything else?
I'm being flippant and overly simplistic of course but from a distance it looks like the system is broke. Shouldn't the government look into fixing it. What else are you paying them for?
This is a very complex, confusing and expensive issue. It’s difficult to understand because there are so many versions and the proposals keep changing. The things that strike me are:
70% of Americans are happy with their own health care plans;
The number routinely used to describe the percentage of Americans not covered has been shown to be inflated;
Obama wants this thing passed by October, which really does not allow much time to debate; and
Fortune magazine came out with an article today about the future need to bail out Social Security because the system, as it exists, cannot sustain itself. No one wants to talk about repairing Social Security because of the costs and sacrifices. How does that gibe with a national health care system?
I would like to know where the figure "70% " of Americans are happy with their healthcare. I have worked in construction all my life. By law construction is exempt from having to provide healthcare for the employees. It seems the poeple who are happy with the status quo are the one who are lucky enough to have employers contributing ( however small the amount) to their healthcare. There are a lot of us out here who pay for their own insurance and the price has increased far faster than wages.
A larger part of the problem isn't who does and doesn't have insurance it is what the medical industry charges for services rendered. Removal of 12 stiches billed to us at $1700.00 seems grossly overpriced. No other industry can charge at these inflated rates and get away with it. It took less than 15 minutes to remove the stiches from a foot surgery so at that rate I just paid someone $250.00 an hour.
It's much like the auto industry which pays their worker upwards of 35-40 per hour and expects someone who make 10-20 to be able to afford their cars.
Wow. You want people to go to Time Magazine and The White House blog to get "real" information about the health care bill. You are delusional, The "birthers" are nuts, but the people opposed to this healthcare bill do not fall into the same catagory-no matter how hard the White House works to paint them as being of the same ilk.
It's not an "Astro Turf Movement" (how arrogant!), but it's easier to margianlize those who disagree than to have an honest debate with them.
Thanks for the constructive feedback, Ash.
I didn't mean to imply that birthers and those opposed to the health care bill are in the same category. If it comes across that way, then I apologize and should have worded it better.
At least we both agree that birthers are nuts.
If you feel that Time magazine and the White House blog are not good places to get information about the health care bill, can you tell me what are some good sources I could check out rather than call me delusional?
And in all honesty, I had to Google "Astro Turf Movement."
got tempted to search out the answer….
http://www.tripalmint.com/article.php?id=1&br…
Originally founded in 1910 as "D.A. Ebinger Sanitary Manufacturing Company", later renamed to EBCO in 1935… I imagine it is the combination of Ebinger and Company that yields EBCO
Well, Time and the WH have an agenda. Fox has an agenda. Since there isn't a bill for us to read, it's impossible to have a good debate. What I find astonishing is that the current status quo for government health care is never brought up. This point intrigues me the most:
From the Economist: (I'm quoting what was actually a graph, so not a word-for-word quote here): The US government, including state Medicaid, spends more per capita on health care than France, Germany, the UK, Switzerland, Canada. Those countries manage to cover almost everyone. So apparently, the US government COULD cover almost everyone WITHOUT this bill. If Obama is so sure that we could save money by making the system more efficient, can't we start there? Yes, the system we have now isn't great. But we don't have the money right now, so fix what we can and work towards fiscal responsibility. I really don't understand why a government (regardless of party) who cannot manage SS responsibly should be allowed to create another mess before fixing the old one.
If you've ever lived in a country with socialize medicine you might think a little more about this health care plan. It creates an even greater divide between the haves and the have nots. Why do you think all those Canadians who can afford it come down here for medical treatment. I agree we need to see the actual bill before any conclusions can be drawn. Lord only knows what kind of riders will be placed on this bill!
At least this will make it all better http://tinyurl.com/n6uok6
And, be sure to read the comments for some good chuckles.
Hi folks. Here's a public letter from 12 members of Congress–both Democrats and Republicans–about the current health care reform bill. I would recommend turning off your televisions (where the "wrong people are controlling the dialog") and read what your actual senators are saying.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…
From a July 29 email I received from Obama:
“Over the next month there is going to be an avalanche of misinformation and scare tactics from those seeking to perpetuate the status quo. But we know the cost of doing nothing is too high. Health care costs will double over the next decade, millions more will become uninsured, and state and local governments will go bankrupt.”
It’s nice to know that they’re not resorting to “scare tactics”…. All that was missing was rising sea levels and dead polar bears….
I'm baffled by the healthcare debate. What should a government do? Give the people the resources to have them taken care of , protect the people and fix the roads. Is there anything else?
I'm being flippant and overly simplistic of course but from a distance it looks like the system is broke. Shouldn't the government look into fixing it. What else are you paying them for?
This is a very complex, confusing and expensive issue. It’s difficult to understand because there are so many versions and the proposals keep changing. The things that strike me are:
70% of Americans are happy with their own health care plans;
The number routinely used to describe the percentage of Americans not covered has been shown to be inflated;
Obama wants this thing passed by October, which really does not allow much time to debate; and
Fortune magazine came out with an article today about the future need to bail out Social Security because the system, as it exists, cannot sustain itself. No one wants to talk about repairing Social Security because of the costs and sacrifices. How does that gibe with a national health care system?
Forget the Health care stuff, there needs to be more complains about an entire webpage full of kitten videos. That gave me shivers!
Forget the Health care stuff, there needs to be more complaints about an entire webpage full of kitten videos. That gave me shivers!
I would like to know where the figure "70% " of Americans are happy with their healthcare. I have worked in construction all my life. By law construction is exempt from having to provide healthcare for the employees. It seems the poeple who are happy with the status quo are the one who are lucky enough to have employers contributing ( however small the amount) to their healthcare. There are a lot of us out here who pay for their own insurance and the price has increased far faster than wages.
A larger part of the problem isn't who does and doesn't have insurance it is what the medical industry charges for services rendered. Removal of 12 stiches billed to us at $1700.00 seems grossly overpriced. No other industry can charge at these inflated rates and get away with it. It took less than 15 minutes to remove the stiches from a foot surgery so at that rate I just paid someone $250.00 an hour.
It's much like the auto industry which pays their worker upwards of 35-40 per hour and expects someone who make 10-20 to be able to afford their cars.
The balance is off – seriously…