Comments on: Earliest reference describes Christ as ‘magician’ http://www.bagofnothing.com/2008/10/disable-fly-outmarketplace-credit-score-0-at-creditreportcom-start-a-business-entrepreneurcom-netflix-try-for-free-career-center-via-monster-homes-for-sale-via-homepagescom-investments-7-o/ Because that's all I have to offer Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:25:36 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rev. Hart http://www.bagofnothing.com/2008/10/disable-fly-outmarketplace-credit-score-0-at-creditreportcom-start-a-business-entrepreneurcom-netflix-try-for-free-career-center-via-monster-homes-for-sale-via-homepagescom-investments-7-o/comment-page-1/#comment-113710 Rev. Hart Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:46:25 +0000 http://www.bagofnothing.com/?p=18099#comment-113710 Dan, there is also Pliny the Younger and Origen. They were non-Christian figures who wrote about their dealings with the early members of the Jesus movement (read: the Early Church). If you are thusly interested, you'll definitely enjoy Josh McDowell's thorough <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Christianity-Josh-McDowell/dp/1418506281" rel="nofollow">Evidence for Christianity</a>. Grace and peace. Dan, there is also Pliny the Younger and Origen. They were non-Christian figures who wrote about their dealings with the early members of the Jesus movement (read: the Early Church).

If you are thusly interested, you’ll definitely enjoy Josh McDowell’s thorough Evidence for Christianity.

Grace and peace.

]]> By: dan http://www.bagofnothing.com/2008/10/disable-fly-outmarketplace-credit-score-0-at-creditreportcom-start-a-business-entrepreneurcom-netflix-try-for-free-career-center-via-monster-homes-for-sale-via-homepagescom-investments-7-o/comment-page-1/#comment-113701 dan Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:45:31 +0000 http://www.bagofnothing.com/?p=18099#comment-113701 Keith, thanks for this post. For the last several years I’ve been fascinated about what sort of factual information exists concerning the history of Christianity immediately following the crucifixion. My understanding from reading a dozen New Testament historians is that none of the four gospels were eyewitness accounts and all were written one to two generations after Jesus’ death/resurrection. Nor are any of the authors known, although Luke may have been a companion of Paul. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus existence outside of the New Testament [written between 65 CE and 95 CE] during the first 100 years other than a comment by the historian Josephus, who refers to Jesus indirectly in a single sentence describing the death of Jesus’ brother, James. Any possible references to Jesus by anyone in the first century, especially non-Christian accounts, are very unusual. Keith, thanks for this post. For the last several years I’ve been fascinated about what sort of factual information exists concerning the history of Christianity immediately following the crucifixion. My understanding from reading a dozen New Testament historians is that none of the four gospels were eyewitness accounts and all were written one to two generations after Jesus’ death/resurrection. Nor are any of the authors known, although Luke may have been a companion of Paul. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus existence outside of the New Testament [written between 65 CE and 95 CE] during the first 100 years other than a comment by the historian Josephus, who refers to Jesus indirectly in a single sentence describing the death of Jesus’ brother, James. Any possible references to Jesus by anyone in the first century, especially non-Christian accounts, are very unusual.

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